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pups
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 01:51 pm:   

So what do people think of Orange Juice then? Does everyone here own You Can't Hide Your Love Forever? It is definitely one of my favourite albums.
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carl
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 04:50 pm:   

I love that album too, in my top 10 for sure. Did you get Edwyn`s `I`m not following you` album? I can highly recommend it. I`ve also got his latest, but I have been too busy to give it my full attention (those days of sitting down with the lyric sheet are long gone I`m affraid!)
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Jeff Whiteaker
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 05:54 pm:   

I own and like You Can't Hide Your Love Forever, but unlike most people, I actually prefer both Rip it Up and the Third album. Actually, I think all their albums suffer from inconsistency, but they all contain enough classic material to warrant owning them. When I first heard Falling and Laughing (the album version), I wasn't even half way through the first verse when I realized this was definitely a band for me.
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fsh
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 06:31 pm:   

Like Jeff and apparently unlike most people I also think The Third Album (couldn't think of a title!) is OJ's best; don't agree with Rip It Up though - really surprised by the appearance of 'Tenderhooks' on the recent Best of Edwyn/O.J. compilation.
Saw Edwyn playing with Dave Couse in Dublin a couple of weeks back - their second outing together(in the traditional meaning of the words) in the past year.
Other nonsense not worth mentioning:
OJ drummer Stephen Daly (does he write for Vogue or some such magazine these days?: he has appeared on BBC radio with an American report thing which I only heard once, but unsurprisingly very entertaining)....well anyway he the one trying to keep time on the GB's postcard single.
And of course, Edwyn produced Warm nights but apparently not to everyone's satisfaction.
And didn't Grant Robert and Edwyn do a version of Sympathy for the Devil for Beggars Banquet 25th anniversary commemoration album or some such.
Edwyn's last album proper - Dr. Sythax is worth a spin - some funky grooving as opposed to chooglin' going on.
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pups
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 07:25 pm:   

Well I'm a fan of James Kirk, which is why I prefer the first album. I think his songs are as good as Edwyns. His solo album You Can Make It If You Boogie is worth hearing.

Falling and Laughing was the first Orange Juice song I heard also. I remember thinking "hello..."

I was one of those that wasn't pleased with the Edwyn Collins production on Warm Nights. I remember seeing Robert play all those songs live a few months before he recorded them. He was supporting Custard at a small club in Brisbane called Babble On. The songs sounded much better then. Especially Fortress, which was far more desperate and intense... I also remember that for Snake Skin Lady - which Robert had written that day - Adele played guitar, Glenn played bass, and Robert just sang. Robert stuck a sheet of paper, with the chords written out, onto his back; Adele and Glenn stood directly behind him, staring at his back, and playing along. It was quite a sight.
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paule
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 10:52 am:   

Six degrees.......after leaving Orange Juice Malcolm Ross and David McClymont teamed up with Dave Graney (as an early 'DG & Coral Snakes). The Dave & his missus then turn up with RF on NY Girlfriend. "Texas Fever" is the best OJ album. I tend not to buy Edwyns' solo stuff and he doesn't need me to as he is so incredibly rich (true) since Girl like you....and good luck to him!
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James
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 11:13 am:   

'Felicity' and 'Salmon fishing in New York' are fabulous. I have a friend who lives in a place called Evanton which is 20 miles North of Inverness and rumour has it that Edwyn Collins has just moved into the area. Martin Stephenson also lives up there and can be regularly seen in local pubs playing 20 minute Van Morrison-esque versions of his old Daintees songs, its quite something.
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Martin R
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 06:03 pm:   

Must say that I adored Orange Juice, but YCHYLF was a huge disappointment for me, so squeaky clean. Great songs, but preferred the live versions from their early tours. Agree with pups that James Kirk was (is) a brilliant song writer and the break up of the original OJ was a sad day.
As for EC's solo material, I really like the albums, but why no live gigs? The Beatles song from Dr Syntax is supreme, somehow I dont think the Gallaghers will be covering it!!
Finally I believe that David McClymont moved to Melbourne and writes for Lonely Planet.
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C Gull
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 08:27 pm:   

I bought YCHYLFE when browsing through a record shop when I was about 14 (remember that feeling) and just seeing this LP that I liked the cover of. Soon became a real favourite and loved all the earlier singles aswell especially BlueBoy. I heard Consolation Prize the other day on a Byrds tribute CD from Uncut it is sounded tremendously fresh - really enjoyed it.
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david nichols
Posted on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 03:45 am:   

The cover to YCHYLF is really good and I think it was quite refreshing and exciting for the time. I can well imagine buying a record like that on spec just because of its cover. Like the bizarre juxtaposition of the cowboy imagery on the Postcard 'records of scotland' label, it countered the dour feel and look of everyone else's records at that time very well.

Steve Bush who designed YCHYLF moved to Australia and went on to become my boss at Attic Press in the early 90s, the company responsible for successful magazines such as Girlfriend and TV Hits (though they bought TV Hits from elsewhere, didn't invent it). He also had a formative role in Smash Hits. I wonder what he does now.

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